FREQUENCY CENTRAL Microbus (Power Supply) [BOM]

Doing some checks on the pins, i can’t seem to get a reading from the 7912 ground and other grounds on the board, could I just run a wire from the 9712 ground to some other ground? I might have wrecked the through hole.

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with the 2000mA power supply, looks like @lookmumnocomputer uses a 2000mA one as well.

The 2000mA is good. You could wire the ground to that of the 7812.

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Awesome! Cheers, I’ll give it a go thanks!

Yeah, if you’ve lost the ground, the 7912 doesnt have anything to regulate against. You can verify by checking for connectivity between GND (pin 1) and the output GND. A wire to the other regulator’s GND should work (note that the pinouts are different).

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Done! Getting the right readings now.

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You guys are amazing. After reflowing and spending 2 hours wondering why my dual VCA wasnt working I realised I hadn’t used my FC Microbus to test modules before…yup had mixed up the regulators. Good news, I didn’t mess up the VCA build :laughing:

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I just noticed that I did buy (and solder) 16V 4700uf capacitors instead of 25V…
12V RMS should be ~34V peak to peak, so to ground this is ~17V right? This is too tight, right?

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The rectifier diodes will shave off a bit, but a lightly loaded AC transformer will output more than 12 V AC, so yeah, this isn’t good.

(e.g. this one that I was looking at the other day for a project has a “No-load voltage factor” of 1.11, so would peak just under 19 V, ignoring the diode drop).

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This is what can happen…

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Oh, That looks bad!! Yeah, I need to wait until the correct caps arrive even if it’s hard!

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fortunately just one dead cap. My supply was rated to high, and was actually even higher in reality.

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This one really has me scratching my head…

I just finished building four micro buses, and all 4 of them are doing the same thing…

I plugged them in and none of the LEDs light. I took the multimeter, all the outputs are measuring the correct voltages, so that’s good.

Here’s what I dont get. I took a loose LED, and I can get it to light on all 3 spots, on all 4 boards , but I have to put the anode (long one) on the ROUND contact point, and the cathode (short one) on the SQUARE. contact point.

Am I missing something? Every kit I’ve ever done the square pad got the longer end. Or did I get a shipment of bazaro LEDs?

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From https://frequencycentral.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/FC-Power-Visual-Build-Guide.pdf :

  1. Solder the 78L05 and 3 x 3mm LEDs. Short leg of LED goes into square pad.

And in KiCad, all the LED footprints have the square pad for the cathode.

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Well that explains it. Is that common for LEDs?

I’m looking at my white face kit from frequency central; for the electronic capacitors the square pad is marked with a +, which is the long conductor on a cap

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Yeah, and same in the FC Power, and same in the KiCad footprints, for polarized caps the square pad is +. Seems illogical but there it is.

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Thank goodness I ran into this before I put together the deep thought kit I bought . That would have been a lot of LEDs to desolder

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The flat side on the silkscreen also gives it away. That is always the cathode.

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have a batch of 3mm leds that must have been made backwards the flat side is on the wrong side . it was driving me crazy trouble shooting until i tried a different led .

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I’ve been going around looking at all my kits… Clearly I need to build more if I’m making a mistake like that.

And I’ve got to say, Sam’s kits have the best markings by a country mile. Everything has a little + or - , and the resistor values are printed next to, rather than under the component.

That stuff makes a huge difference for the casual hobbyist.

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I’ve actually bought only one LMNC module so far, the Triple Splashback, and on that one the references and values are not next to the footprint, they’re under the component:

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Maybe because the board’s more densely populated than some of the other modules? Whatever the reason, it made things harder.

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