Kosmo Sequential Switch

And that won’t come back to bite you ever…

If it was me I would’ve just pulled the plastic shroud off the header and replaced it the other way around.

For future reference: When in doubt, do a continuity check. The +12 V pins connect to the + side of one 10 µF cap, the -12 V pins (red stripe side) connect to the - side of the other 10 µF cap. (Probably through a resistor or a diode, so check continuity from pins to resistors/diodes and then from other side of resistors/diodes to caps.) (Also this doesn’t work if you installed the caps backwards.)

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Don’t ever use me as a best practices guide.

I am also considering dremeling out the key on the shroud and super gluing a piece of plastic on the other side. It seems like I would more more likely to damage things by pulling off the whole shroud. Maybe if I had a heat gun…

I’ll need to take special note of how to find the +12v side on a module - I ‘thought’ I had applied this to the problem already, but I must have gotten myself confused.

This works for testing purposes - and huzza, it does work! I’ll fix it - I promise.

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The real culprit here is the silkscreen, not you :grinning:

(The resistor and diode footprints look pretty tight, btw. That poor 1N4148…)

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A quick visit to Amazon brought up

where someone asks about the pockets, and gets pointed to

(all marked as “Currently unavailable” but might give you some ideas about what to look for (and more search terms))

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Weird problem with mine. On the 2/4/3 switch 3 and 4 work. 2 does 4 steps.

Resistor checks out to 2.7k.

Continuity checks out between SW3, D6, 4017 & the 313 replacement and continuity checks out between the connections between the 4017 and 313, and everything tones out correctly on the SW3 pcb pads when I flip the switch around.

Could it somehow be a problem that i used the 2 pin bicolor leds?

Double check continuity between pin 3 of the switch to the 4017, on 2 step mode the 4017 should send a reset on step 3

That connection is good. I’m gonna hook it up to the scope.

Huh…So it will work properly if I clip the scope lead anywhere in the D2, D5, R8, D4, D6 junction. however a placebo alligator clip did not fool it into working.

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R8 continuity to ground?

That was the first thing I checked after I clipped to R8 and it started working. r8 contacts gnd

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R12 does also. as do Q1 & Q3.

Oh, further detail. It only works if i do NOT connect the scope ground.

EDIT: When i connect the scope ground to the board i dont’ get any resets at all (ie. 3 step stops working as well)

Hook a clock up to it on 4 step mode and see if you can trace the trigger signal from pin 4 of the 4017 back to the reset. Gotta be getting blocked or grounded somewhere?

You still are getting a reset on step 5 though. The 4017 is a 10 step IC just only using 4

correct twentychr 20

Ok, i’m gonna have to hack up an aligator cable and make some kind of franken 1/4" to alligator clip cable then because I lack even a simple function generator at my test bench and the scope at the rack only has 1/4" inputs.

Cable → loose jack → alligator clips

nah. i made a franken thing anyways, i’m gonna need it. Honestly I should probably just find the cheapest scope leads I can find on ebay and make it up nice.

SO… I see a high signal on one side of the switch when the light is on step 3, however that’s not the side of the switch that is active.

On the other side of the switch, I don’t get a reset until after step 4.

I have check and tripple checked conductivity between the pins of the switch themselves and pins 4&7 themselves (not the socket pin) on the 4017

I’m not sure I understand exactly—it’s weird it works on 3 and 4 step mode but not on 2, cause they share the same circuitry after the switch.

Have you taken a look at the schem? i just did, sorry its a mess this was my second module.

Have you tried to reflow stuff especially the grounds?

faulty switch? should be able to get continuity from center pin to each outside pin if you check both “on” switch positions

Yeah, I’ve refried just about every joint.

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