# Simple mixer LIN vs LOG

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**Created:** [April 18, 2020, 6:03am UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/simple-mixer-lin-vs-log/658 "2020-04-18T06:03:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![twinturbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8baadc/32.png) [@twinturbo](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/u/twinturbo)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2020, 6:03am UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/simple-mixer-lin-vs-log/658/1 "2020-04-18T06:03:48Z")

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simple question on the simple mixer…

as far as I understand, pro-desks use LOG pots to compensate for the progression on the decibel scale and provide a closer to linear control of the signal amplitude.

The Simple Mixer states LIN pots.

Am i misunderstanding, or would it be better with LOG pots?

Rob

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**Author:** ![Dud](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/dud/32/610_2.png) [@Dud](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/u/Dud)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2020, 6:37pm UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/simple-mixer-lin-vs-log/658/2 "2020-04-18T18:37:18Z")

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if you have some log you can use them (maybe better), I have lin on all my diy mixers and it suits me like that

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**Author:** ![ChristianBloch](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/christianbloch/32/56_2.png) [@ChristianBloch](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/u/ChristianBloch)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2020, 6:42pm UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/simple-mixer-lin-vs-log/658/3 "2020-04-18T18:42:24Z")

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Yeah, I like audio taper better for audio 😛

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**Author:** ![Maxhirez](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/maxhirez/32/42_2.png) [@Maxhirez](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/u/Maxhirez)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2020, 8:03pm UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/simple-mixer-lin-vs-log/658/4 "2020-04-18T20:03:11Z")

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Keep track of which is which though-the logarithmic progression works for audio signal level, but not so good for oscillators, envelope generation, and many kinds of attenuation.

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**Author:** ![analogoutput](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/analogoutput/32/29663_2.png) [@analogoutput](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/u/analogoutput)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2020, 10:19pm UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/simple-mixer-lin-vs-log/658/5 "2020-04-18T22:19:33Z")

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Mixers don’t have to be exclusively for audio. In fact you could build one with log pots for audio and one with linear pots for CV.

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**Author:** ![Dud](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/dud/32/610_2.png) [@Dud](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/u/Dud)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2020, 10:26pm UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/simple-mixer-lin-vs-log/658/6 "2020-04-18T22:26:39Z")

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a stupid question : i don’t know audio taper, is another name the same for Log ?

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**Author:** ![fredrik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/fredrik/32/682_2.png) [@fredrik](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/u/fredrik)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2020, 10:39pm UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/simple-mixer-lin-vs-log/658/7 "2020-04-18T22:39:16Z")

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Yeah, they’re usually marked A for Audio. They’re neither audio (as in [human hearing response curves](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal-loudness_contour)) nor [log](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logarithm#/media/File:Logarithm_plots.png), but rather piecewise linear, but that’s electronics conventions for you.

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Note the V curve, btw – the alps potentiometers I got that graph from use a mostly linear curve for their volume control, not the textbook “log” curve. See [here](https://tech.alpsalpine.com/prod/e/pdf/potentiometer/taper.pdf) for a few more variants.

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**Post date:** [April 18, 2020, 10:51pm UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/simple-mixer-lin-vs-log/658/8 "2020-04-18T22:51:52Z")

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yes i know A Log and B Lin but i do not know Taper, thanks !

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**Post date:** [April 18, 2020, 10:55pm UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/simple-mixer-lin-vs-log/658/9 "2020-04-18T22:55:01Z")

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> [@analogoutput](#):
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> In fact you could build one with log pots for audio and one with linear pots for CV.

See e.g. [Doepfer A-138](http://www.doepfer.de/a138.htm):

> Module A-138 is a four channel mixer, which can be used with either control voltages or audio signals. /…/  
> A-138 a: potentiometers with linear response, so especially suitable for control voltage mixing.  
> A-138 b: potentiometers with logarithmic response, so especially suitable for audio signal mixing.

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**Author:** ![twinturbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8baadc/32.png) [@twinturbo](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/u/twinturbo)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2020, 7:25am UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/simple-mixer-lin-vs-log/658/10 "2020-04-19T07:25:22Z")

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So, in answer then… It woudl be better with (LOG / A / Taper)… But it’s not a big issue…

But avoid using them elsewhere ( Been there, been stung ).

I have a few LOG sliders that have no use to me generaly so will put them to good use 🙂  
Rob
