# Problems with the stripboard Lp vcf layout

**URL:** <https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/problems-with-the-stripboard-lp-vcf-layout/510>\
**Category:** DIY STUFF\
**Created:** [April 2, 2020, 7:54pm UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/problems-with-the-stripboard-lp-vcf-layout/510 "2020-04-02T19:54:43Z")\
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**Post date:** [January 13, 2023, 5:30pm UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/problems-with-the-stripboard-lp-vcf-layout/510/62 "2023-01-13T17:30:49Z")

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sigh

> [@General advice for troubleshooting a module and asking for help](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/general-advice-for-troubleshooting-a-module-and-asking-for-help/2049):
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> (This is a wiki post, please add and correct!) Look and see if others have had the same problem. Use the Discourse search facility to find topics where the module you’re building is discussed. Inspect your work. Verify all components are correct values. Look for solder connections that are rough, irregular, skimpy, dull, or missed completely (we all do that!) and reflow them. Look for solder bridges between pads and remove them. Check your power connection. If it’s a Eurorack style power cabl…

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**Author:** ![TylerTheFolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c5a1d2/32.png) [@TylerTheFolf](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/u/TylerTheFolf)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2023, 9:13am UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/problems-with-the-stripboard-lp-vcf-layout/510/63 "2023-01-18T09:13:21Z")

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Ive double triple checked. What I don’t understand is how the cutoff works in the circuit. Is it fully open when no voltage is applied or fully closed with voltage applied. I also don’t really get why the volume knobs just act like a switch essentially. Ive wired them in in the same way the attennuators are but it just is either all or nothing. I must have super crap luck with strip-board as it never seems to work lol. All the pcb’s have been fine aside a few crap jst connectors

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**Post date:** [January 18, 2023, 10:06am UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/problems-with-the-stripboard-lp-vcf-layout/510/64 "2023-01-18T10:06:58Z")

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> [@TylerTheFolf](#):
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> What I don’t understand is how the cutoff works in the circuit. Is it fully open when no voltage is applied or fully closed with voltage applied

without any external voltage you should have (in LowPass mode) the sound muted with the Cut Off pot completely closed on the left, and completely open on the right the sound should pass

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**Post date:** [January 18, 2023, 10:13am UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/problems-with-the-stripboard-lp-vcf-layout/510/65 "2023-01-18T10:13:24Z")

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I have the same issue with the CV level pot, keep meaning to try with a different taper pot.

Have you got a multimeter? If so, take a voltage reading at each pin and post here. It’s hard to troubleshoot from the info given.

Are your transistors and IC chips in sockets? If so, worth swapping them out. Where did you get the lm13700 from? Make sure it’s a good supplier.

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**Author:** ![TylerTheFolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c5a1d2/32.png) [@TylerTheFolf](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/u/TylerTheFolf)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2023, 10:28am UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/problems-with-the-stripboard-lp-vcf-layout/510/66 "2023-01-18T10:28:55Z")

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Yeah, so currently for me with no external voltage sound passes no matter where I have the cutoff set, I even double checked on highpass which makes it go completely silent as the cutoff seems stuck open. Which probably explains why the resonance only makes the leds light but not affect the sound…maybe…

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**Author:** ![TylerTheFolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c5a1d2/32.png) [@TylerTheFolf](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/u/TylerTheFolf)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2023, 10:30am UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/problems-with-the-stripboard-lp-vcf-layout/510/67 "2023-01-18T10:30:54Z")

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Yeah ill try and take measurements, I just have very little of my own time at home atm. My LM13700 is in a socket. I got them from tayda. I also used the same batch in the funky filter and that seems to work fine I think

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**Post date:** [January 18, 2023, 10:34am UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/problems-with-the-stripboard-lp-vcf-layout/510/68 "2023-01-18T10:34:14Z")

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> [@TylerTheFolf](#):
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> I even double checked on highpass which makes it go completely silent as the cutoff seems stuck open

in HP mode, it’s the opposite: on the left it is completely open, and on the right completely (near) closed

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