# Matrix Sequencer ideas **URL:** \ **Category:** DIY STUFF\ **Created:** [November 5, 2021, 8:59am UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/matrix-sequencer-ideas/4182 "2021-11-05T08:59:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![sebastian](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/sebastian/32/39_2.png) [@sebastian](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/u/sebastian)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 8:59am UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/matrix-sequencer-ideas/4182/1 "2021-11-05T08:59:09Z")
I know, I should finish my other projects first before starting another one, but you know how this is 😉 Looking a bit around for interesting sequencers I found the [Z8000 Matrix Sequencer](https://tiptopaudio.com/z8000/) by TipTopAudio. There is a cool demonstration of how to use it together with a precision adder in the later part of this video: [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/lookmumnocomputer/original/3X/9/0/90083b612aac707caacded8a32159dcb32aedf7f.jpeg "Melody Progression Tips for Eurorack Modular") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbxaWluHXEU) Now I was thinking about bringing this into Kosmo format, with the change of having a “end of circle” signal, so when a sequencer completes, it sends a signal which than could be used to advance another sequencer for a step. I think it could be a cool way of generating melodies! ![Screenshot from 2021-11-05 09-41-17](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/lookmumnocomputer/original/3X/9/5/95b094384cc8f6b19faec058d3929b3cb23fa4bb.jpeg) But there are soo many jacksockets now! Maybe I should think about some kind of simplification, because like this the module will be quite crowded and also pricey! But going to only 3x3 steps does not sound such a good idea… maybe only use the horizontal sequences? but I also like the idea of being able to use the same knobs for two different sequences… any clever ideas? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Sonosus](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/sonosus/32/13679_2.png) [@Sonosus](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/u/Sonosus)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 9:43am UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/matrix-sequencer-ideas/4182/2 "2021-11-05T09:43:56Z")
Maybe build in a quantizer so said melodies always sound nice? ---
**Author:** ![Dave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Dave](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/u/Dave)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 10:21am UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/matrix-sequencer-ideas/4182/3 "2021-11-05T10:21:21Z")
This is a cool idea, I like grid sequencers, but I do agree that is a very busy panel, that would need to be large to feel like the spacing of Kosmo. I am aware this forum is not about software, however, I feel it can be a good source of inspiration. My favourite grid sequencer is JW GridSeq, where you have triggers to advance horizontally or vertically through the grid. If you were to disregard the probability and gate controls from the ui, this may give you some ideas. > **[GitHub - jeremywen/JW-Modules: VCV Rack Modules](https://github.com/jeremywen/JW-Modules#gridseq)** > > VCV Rack Modules. Contribute to jeremywen/JW-Modules development by creating an account on GitHub. [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/lookmumnocomputer/original/3X/b/2/b2668d1534ced91433840a132f30b73088e51e1a.jpeg "GridSeq - (My 2nd module for VCV Rack)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bnxzqi5jwcU) ---
**Author:** ![sebastian](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/sebastian/32/39_2.png) [@sebastian](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/u/sebastian)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 11:14am UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/matrix-sequencer-ideas/4182/4 "2021-11-05T11:14:07Z")
Quantizer is a good idea, but the module is busy enough already 😉 ---
**Author:** ![sebastian](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/sebastian/32/39_2.png) [@sebastian](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/u/sebastian)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 11:15am UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/matrix-sequencer-ideas/4182/5 "2021-11-05T11:15:00Z")
That’s a cool sequencer! But I would need a microprocessor for this kind of stuff, I guess… But maybe it’s also possible without just with counters and cd4051, like my original idea… But I also like having multiple sequences in parallel, but maybe not 10 xD ---
**Author:** ![analogoutput](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/analogoutput/32/29663_2.png) [@analogoutput](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/u/analogoutput)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 3:25pm UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/matrix-sequencer-ideas/4182/6 "2021-11-05T15:25:37Z")
If it were me I’d probably do it as a 30 cm module ![matseq](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/lookmumnocomputer/original/3X/7/d/7d998d887cd56c0aeed41849bf0cb90ecdc91de1.png) ---
**Author:** ![sebastian](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/sebastian/32/39_2.png) [@sebastian](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/u/sebastian)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 3:48pm UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/matrix-sequencer-ideas/4182/7 "2021-11-05T15:48:03Z")
Maybe that’s the solution! Looks cool! But still almost 40 jack sockets in a single module xD ---
**Author:** ![sebastian](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/sebastian/32/39_2.png) [@sebastian](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/u/sebastian)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 3:50pm UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/matrix-sequencer-ideas/4182/8 "2021-11-05T15:50:46Z")
I am thinking about maybe only doing the horizontal sequencers, but keeping the option for an extension module. And then maybe add an internal precision adder and whole volt quantizer (for transposing)… ---
**Author:** ![analogoutput](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/analogoutput/32/29663_2.png) [@analogoutput](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/u/analogoutput)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 3:54pm UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/matrix-sequencer-ideas/4182/9 "2021-11-05T15:54:06Z")
> [@sebastian](#): > > But still almost 40 jack sockets in a single module xD Yeah, and? ![IMG_20200721_160703a](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/lookmumnocomputer/original/3X/0/0/0085313fd81ce4be5e9799497b6469e519ab3bfe.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Jos](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/jos/32/151_2.png) [@Jos](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/u/Jos)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2021, 9:33am UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/matrix-sequencer-ideas/4182/10 "2021-11-06T09:33:53Z")
You may want to read this: [Reality check: HP - North Coast Synthesis Ltd.](https://northcoastsynthesis.com/news/reality-check-hp/) It contains some thoughts on how to use HP space without falling into the trap of the “consensus of fantasy designers is that a module with as much functionality as possible ought to fit easily in about 4HP”, if not 4HP than as little HPs as possible. Putting controls and inputs this close together makes it impossible to use the device comfortably. ---
**Author:** ![sebastian](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/sebastian/32/39_2.png) [@sebastian](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/u/sebastian)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2021, 9:40am UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/matrix-sequencer-ideas/4182/11 "2021-11-06T09:40:29Z")
Yeah, I am aware, but the question is: less functionality or a wider module (@analogoutput ‘s suggestion)? XD ---
**Author:** ![Jos](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/jos/32/151_2.png) [@Jos](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/u/Jos)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2021, 10:08am UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/matrix-sequencer-ideas/4182/12 "2021-11-06T10:08:36Z")
The nice thing when making your own module is that this is up to you to decide. The burden of making your own module is that this is up to you to decide. [Edit]: being able to reach all knobs and jacks comfortably will pay off in the end. You will otherwise probably stop using the module because operating it has become a pain. ---
**Author:** ![Dave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Dave](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/u/Dave)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2021, 10:42am UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/matrix-sequencer-ideas/4182/13 "2021-11-06T10:42:20Z")
The crowded UI is always my downfall, but I have got a bit better, sometimes it’s about less features or bigger panels, or maybe there are alternate ways using less UI elements. Just for fun, here is one of my bad designs, a totally unusable midi controller. ![20211106_093848](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/lookmumnocomputer/original/3X/7/8/78fcc26c2eaf1489a5e8734caec0e61687360aaf.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Farabide](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecc23a/32.png) [@Farabide](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/u/Farabide)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2021, 10:46am UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/matrix-sequencer-ideas/4182/14 "2021-11-06T10:46:14Z")
Wow! Add some rubber bands with a twist or two to those knobs and you have something very special locking preset knobs together. ---
**Author:** ![Jos](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/jos/32/151_2.png) [@Jos](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/u/Jos)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2021, 1:58pm UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/matrix-sequencer-ideas/4182/15 "2021-11-06T13:58:04Z")
This is my version of a midi controller. ![P4100841](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/lookmumnocomputer/original/3X/e/9/e9677222ec59f63f06839a16b8aed42937148839.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![analogoutput](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/analogoutput/32/29663_2.png) [@analogoutput](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/u/analogoutput)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2021, 2:03pm UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/matrix-sequencer-ideas/4182/16 "2021-11-06T14:03:16Z")
You’ll never make it in the military industrial complex: > [@Military spec knobs](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/military-spec-knobs/3033): > > From here: ---
**Author:** ![Dave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Dave](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/u/Dave)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2021, 2:28pm UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/matrix-sequencer-ideas/4182/17 "2021-11-06T14:28:22Z")
> [@Jos](#): > > This is my version of a midi controller. Yours looks much better than mine. It’s a perfect example of your comment above, if it’s awkward to use it won’t get used. I had to dig into my box of things to salvage for the photo. I did remake it in a usable form. > [@analogoutput](#): > > You’ll never make it in the military industrial complex: It could be driven over by a tank without losing any functionality. Mainly because it has none, other than to demonstrate bad panel design. Was not all a loss, it was a good learning experience. ---
**Author:** ![Caustic](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/caustic/32/15588_2.png) [@Caustic](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/u/Caustic)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2021, 4:16pm UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/matrix-sequencer-ideas/4182/18 "2021-11-06T16:16:50Z")
I did the same thing when I designed my modular midi controller. If I used think knobs it’s mostly fine, but it’s just not enough space.