# Daisy Patch Module Kosmo Development Module

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**Category:** KOSMO MODULES\
**Created:** [January 27, 2024, 9:19pm UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/daisy-patch-module-kosmo-development-module/6943 "2024-01-27T21:19:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![BenRufenacht](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ba8739/32.png) [@BenRufenacht](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/u/BenRufenacht)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2024, 9:19pm UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/daisy-patch-module-kosmo-development-module/6943/1 "2024-01-27T21:19:30Z")

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I finally got around to designing a Kosmo size module for Daisy development. With the patch sub-module, there isn’t much for electronics needed in the design as the patch has all of the power and IO level stuff on board. Mostly just knobs, switches, and jacks. There are a lot of IO options, so I opted for stereo audio in and out with 4 CV inputs by default, with the option to change some jumpers to make the input audio jacks into input triggers and the output audio jacks into output CV.

Also, my first attempt at making some backlit FR4 lighting in my panels:

 ![KosmoDaisyPanel](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/lookmumnocomputer/original/3X/d/f/df43c1a9e9e75860329b3e2d6a66ae4e29e7faaf.png)

I will share more once I get the boards to test

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**Author:** ![BlackDeath](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/blackdeath/32/7644_2.png) [@BlackDeath](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/u/BlackDeath)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2024, 12:41pm UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/daisy-patch-module-kosmo-development-module/6943/2 "2024-01-29T12:41:42Z")

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Beautiful! This one’s gonna end up in my box for sure

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**Author:** ![sebastian](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/sebastian/32/39_2.png) [@sebastian](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/u/sebastian)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2024, 5:43pm UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/daisy-patch-module-kosmo-development-module/6943/3 "2024-01-29T17:43:31Z")

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In mine too!! Does anyone have some nice resources for code? I have only seen some examples and one cool reverb 🙂

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**Author:** ![BenRufenacht](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ba8739/32.png) [@BenRufenacht](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/u/BenRufenacht)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2024, 10:32pm UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/daisy-patch-module-kosmo-development-module/6943/4 "2024-01-29T22:32:46Z")

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There are a few resources out there:

Electrosmith’s Examples including Clouds (Nimbus) and Rings (Torus) clones:

[DaisyExamples/patch at master · electro-smith/DaisyExamples · GitHub](https://github.com/electro-smith/DaisyExamples/tree/master/patch)

Some more examples of a Granular Player, Sample Player, and maybe the cool reverb you spoke of:

[Releases · erwincoumans/DaisyCloudSeed (github.com)](https://github.com/erwincoumans/DaisyCloudSeed/releases)

How about a tape delay:

[kaseta/DEVELOPMENT.md at main · zlosynth/kaseta · GitHub](https://github.com/zlosynth/kaseta)

There is also some Synthux Academy examples:

[Synthux Academy · GitHub](https://github.com/Synthux-Academy)

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**Author:** ![BenRufenacht](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ba8739/32.png) [@BenRufenacht](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/u/BenRufenacht)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2024, 10:35pm UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/daisy-patch-module-kosmo-development-module/6943/5 "2024-01-29T22:35:21Z")

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Just found another cool granular player:

[Grainwaves Demo 2 - Daisy Submodule Granular Synth (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esqyZ5out_c)

[GitHub - TurpinL/Grainwaves: A Daisy Patch SM based granular synth, inspired by the Tasty Chips GR-1](https://github.com/TurpinL/Grainwaves)

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**Author:** ![sebastian](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/sebastian/32/39_2.png) [@sebastian](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/u/sebastian)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2024, 7:23pm UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/daisy-patch-module-kosmo-development-module/6943/6 "2024-01-30T19:23:32Z")

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Now I want to build at least 5 units!! xD  
But this kaseta stuff needs some more controls… maybe it would be good to plan for a possible future extension board or so?

Also found this cool chord module from the same source of the tape delay:

> **[Achordion —⁠ Chord-crafting quantizing wavetable oscillator](https://zlosynth.com/achordion/)**
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> This eurorack module allows you to do many things, but in essence, it is just a bunch of oscillators that never go out of tune or out of scale! Apart from playing anything between lush pads and hellish walls of sound, it enables you to easily jam...

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**Author:** ![BenRufenacht](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ba8739/32.png) [@BenRufenacht](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/u/BenRufenacht)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2024, 8:06pm UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/daisy-patch-module-kosmo-development-module/6943/7 "2024-01-30T20:06:09Z")

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I had thought about adding some expansion capabilities to the module, but ultimately just added the jumpers so I could access all of the IO. I think the only two IO I don’t have access to on the patch SM are the trigger out pins. Ultimately, if more controls are desired, multiplexers or spi devices would need to be added. I figured if I got there, I would just want a new UI design. I could have added a spi plug, but I am using those pins.

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**Author:** ![BenRufenacht](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ba8739/32.png) [@BenRufenacht](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/u/BenRufenacht)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2024, 2:17am UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/daisy-patch-module-kosmo-development-module/6943/8 "2024-02-03T02:17:24Z")

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Shine through PCB works.

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**Author:** ![BenRufenacht](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ba8739/32.png) [@BenRufenacht](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/u/BenRufenacht)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2024, 4:15am UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/daisy-patch-module-kosmo-development-module/6943/9 "2024-02-06T04:15:37Z")

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It works! I have the footprint for the sub-module reversed, so, yes, it is connected with ribbon cables. I am glad I noticed before I powered it up.

 ![1000001550](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/lookmumnocomputer/original/3X/2/4/24f324d591ee5acd861191bf1dc07e9f388f494a.jpeg)

Simple reverb running now. I will now work on something that uses all of the controls and LEDs.

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**Author:** ![BlackDeath](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/blackdeath/32/7644_2.png) [@BlackDeath](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/u/BlackDeath)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2024, 10:13am UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/daisy-patch-module-kosmo-development-module/6943/10 "2024-02-06T10:13:57Z")

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Looks awesome! Is this a “standard” layout, or should we make a collab repo for DaisyKosmo-specific software? I think a lot of people here are going to end up with this module.

Is it precise enough for quantization? I really want to build a combined envelope and discrete voltage adder, something I can do I VCV but never got working in hardware.

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**Post date:** [February 6, 2024, 1:55pm UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/daisy-patch-module-kosmo-development-module/6943/11 "2024-02-06T13:55:11Z")

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Should work fine for quantizing with the two cv outputs.

Example here:

> <https://github.com/EvansUniverse/daisy-projects/tree/main/_evan/Jellybeans>
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> //github.com/EvansUniverse/daisy-projects/tree/main/\_evan/Jellybeans

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**Post date:** [February 6, 2024, 1:58pm UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/daisy-patch-module-kosmo-development-module/6943/12 "2024-02-06T13:58:18Z")

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It can use the standard Daisy patch sm layout. I will get something up that shows how everything is laid out. Still may be nice to have a repo to streamline it a bit more.

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**Post date:** [February 6, 2024, 2:08pm UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/daisy-patch-module-kosmo-development-module/6943/13 "2024-02-06T14:08:33Z")

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> [@BlackDeath](#):
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> Is it precise enough for quantization?

What does “precise enough” mean?

From what I’ve seen the Daisy Seed has two 12-bit DAC outputs, but I haven’t found any information on linearity.

As I understand it the platform is designed for audio generation and processing. Seems it’d be overkill for a control voltage quantizer. _Edit:_ Or maybe both overkill and underkill. Depending on application you might need more than 12 bit DAC.

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**Post date:** [February 14, 2024, 4:02am UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/daisy-patch-module-kosmo-development-module/6943/14 "2024-02-14T04:02:27Z")

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OK, I have managed to get Nimbus (MI Clouds) and the seed reverb working. I will work on getting the files shared and a recording made as soon as I get my most recent synth surgery completed. I also need to get the files updated with the patch sm footprint on the correct side of the board.
