# CV input-protection

**URL:** https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/cv-input-protection/7383
**Category:** DIY STUFF
**Created:** [July 23, 2024, 8:39am UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/cv-input-protection/7383 "2024-07-23T08:39:00Z")
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### Author: ![NEOZEO](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/neozeo/32/29325_2.png) [@NEOZEO](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/u/NEOZEO)
#### Post date: [July 23, 2024, 8:39am UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/cv-input-protection/7383/1 "2024-07-23T08:39:00Z")

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Hey people!  
I want to build VCO based on a 33340. I tried out the Hard- & Soft-Sync-capabilities and put a ~ ±4V rectangle signal on both inputs with the 1nF cap in between. It works, yeah!

 ![Bildschirmfoto 2024-07-23 um 10.26.29](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/lookmumnocomputer/original/3X/4/c/4ceb5fb820728044b9ec80a5a0fb4f8b91f22364.png)

In the datasheet of a CEM3340/AS3340, there are no maximum input voltage ranges, just this info:

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I am in fear that I fry the chip for a ±10V gate/cv signal. What would you do? Saturate the input to 0V-5V with zener diodes? Or do nothing and hope?

Thanks in advance!

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### Author: ![clarionut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/34f0e0/32.png) [@clarionut](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/u/clarionut)
#### Post date: [July 23, 2024, 11:20am UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/cv-input-protection/7383/2 "2024-07-23T11:20:55Z")

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I built my AS3340 VCO based on the [Digisound 80 schematic](http://www.digisound80.co.uk/digisound/modules/80-2_files/80-2.pdf). I used the sync input circuitry exactly as shown - it works fine for me and (tempting fate here!) nothing has blown up (yet).

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### Author: ![NEOZEO](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/neozeo/32/29325_2.png) [@NEOZEO](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/u/NEOZEO)
#### Post date: [July 24, 2024, 8:52am UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/cv-input-protection/7383/3 "2024-07-24T08:52:09Z")

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ok thx! And you can put a +10V gate on it?

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### Author: ![clarionut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/34f0e0/32.png) [@clarionut](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/u/clarionut)
#### Post date: [July 24, 2024, 2:25pm UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/cv-input-protection/7383/4 "2024-07-24T14:25:49Z")

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Mine is happy with 10V signals on the sync inputs.

Quick update - I’ve just checked mine again and it needs pulses of at least 9.5V on the -ve hard sync input to work at all using the component values from the digisound schematic. Might be worth investigating other CM/AS3340 VCO schematics as well.

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### Author: ![Jos](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/jos/32/151_2.png) [@Jos](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/u/Jos)
#### Post date: [July 24, 2024, 5:45pm UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/cv-input-protection/7383/5 "2024-07-24T17:45:23Z")

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> [@NEOZEO](#):
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> Or do nothing and hope?

Na, that won’t work. Not with your kinda luck.

Most ICs are not up to voltages higher than +V and lower than -V.  
There are standard ways to protect inputs, often using diodes and series resistor against +V and -V. If you want to clamp against lower voltages, then a zener comes to mind, but anyway, I’d suggest you do a search for ‘voltage clamping’ or ‘input protection’ and you will find lots of examples.

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#### Post date: [July 24, 2024, 10:04pm UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/cv-input-protection/7383/6 "2024-07-24T22:04:20Z")

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Thanks! Makes sense. Yeah, I still need to learn a lot 😅. There more you tinker with diy modular synthesis (and ask questions about schematics from the internet), the more side-quests open up

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### Author: ![clarionut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/34f0e0/32.png) [@clarionut](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/u/clarionut)
#### Post date: [July 25, 2024, 7:11am UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/cv-input-protection/7383/7 "2024-07-25T07:11:12Z")

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According to the datasheet the hard sync input on the 3340 should be connected via a 1n capacitor (or a slightly more complex but still AC coupled pair of inputs for separate + & - hard sync). Internally the pin is connected to -2.5V via a 6k3 resistor. As long as you’re only applying sync pulses within the normal ±10V range, and using one of the input schemes shown in the datasheet, there should be no problems. I certainly wouldn’t try a direct DC coupled connection though.

Voltage clamping can - in general - be very important on sensitive inputs, but I don’t think the sync input on the 3340 is one of those cases.
