# A litany of dumbassery

**URL:** <https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/a-litany-of-dumbassery/526>\
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**Created:** [April 4, 2020, 9:42pm UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/a-litany-of-dumbassery/526 "2020-04-04T21:42:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ChristianBloch](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/christianbloch/32/56_2.png) [@ChristianBloch](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/u/ChristianBloch)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2020, 3:37pm UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/a-litany-of-dumbassery/526/261 "2020-11-01T15:37:28Z")

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I’m now picturing a stoic Scotsman with a soldering iron suddenly slapping a board on the table with ninja-like speed, then carrying on soldering like nothing had happened.

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**Author:** ![Bitnik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/bitnik/32/274_2.png) [@Bitnik](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/u/Bitnik)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2020, 3:47pm UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/a-litany-of-dumbassery/526/262 "2020-11-01T15:47:48Z")

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> [@ChristianBloch](#):
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> I’m now picturing a stoic Scotsman

[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/lookmumnocomputer/original/2X/d/d92e441c78143ed53fb484789e757b5ddf7fb2b6.jpeg "Ivor Cutler - Life In A Scotch Sitting Room, Vol. 2, Ep. 11") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwNcxd9Jf9I)

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**Author:** ![fredrik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/fredrik/32/682_2.png) [@fredrik](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/u/fredrik)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2020, 4:07pm UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/a-litany-of-dumbassery/526/263 "2020-11-01T16:07:41Z")

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I listed some options earlier in this thread:

> [@A litany of dumbassery](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/a-litany-of-dumbassery/526/108):
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> Some options: Wick + extra flux (get a flux pen, and add extra flux to the wick before wicking) Manual desoldering pump (varying quality, most are a bit crap, I have an Engineer brand one that’s supposedly good but haven’t tried it yet, but even the crap ones can be useful for a first pass). Toothpicks, as mentioned (I think it was @analogoutput who [first suggested that](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/1113-performance-filter/14/9)) [Desoldering needles](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/1113-performance-filter/14/10) may work in some cases; less likely if the holes are tiny. Inertia – heat up the solder, smack the boar…

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**Author:** ![juggle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/juggle/32/6100_2.png) [@juggle](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/u/juggle)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2020, 4:11pm UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/a-litany-of-dumbassery/526/264 "2020-11-01T16:11:46Z")

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> [@twinturbo](#):
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> them

So far so good. They were what I had on hand when I started, and are cheap. I can see them failing at some point, but are cheap and easy to replace when/if they do. For my diy non-PCs modules they’ve been working great so far. If I was performing professionally I probably wouldn’t use them. But as a hobbyist…I’m fine with them.

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**Author:** ![Farabide](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecc23a/32.png) [@Farabide](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/u/Farabide)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2020, 5:21pm UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/a-litany-of-dumbassery/526/265 "2020-11-01T17:21:44Z")

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Stoic Scots just take a dram and spit the blocked solder out. Lovely to see ivor Cutler!

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**Author:** ![CTorp](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/ctorp/32/15023_2.png) [@CTorp](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/u/CTorp)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2020, 5:24pm UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/a-litany-of-dumbassery/526/266 "2020-11-01T17:24:28Z")

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I have the solder sucker my dumbassery requires it. It does the business.

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**Author:** ![ChristianBloch](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/christianbloch/32/56_2.png) [@ChristianBloch](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/u/ChristianBloch)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2020, 6:08pm UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/a-litany-of-dumbassery/526/267 "2020-11-01T18:08:59Z")

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I’ve been a lot more relaxed about needing to desolder since I got the Engineer solder sucker.

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**Author:** ![heckseven](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/heckseven/32/23483_2.png) [@heckseven](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/u/heckseven)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2020, 6:12pm UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/a-litany-of-dumbassery/526/268 "2020-11-01T18:12:30Z")

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Same. I’ve posted in this thread enough to invest in one.

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**Author:** ![Caustic](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/caustic/32/15588_2.png) [@Caustic](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/u/Caustic)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2020, 6:58pm UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/a-litany-of-dumbassery/526/269 "2020-11-01T18:58:11Z")

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That will work for one pad, but I really advocate for braid on hand in case you need to clean something like a chip header. Those are practically impossible without some braid to suck it up, and it’s bound to happen at some point.

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**Author:** ![heckseven](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/heckseven/32/23483_2.png) [@heckseven](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/u/heckseven)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2020, 7:07pm UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/a-litany-of-dumbassery/526/270 "2020-11-01T19:07:57Z")

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The braid is my savior.

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**Author:** ![juggle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/juggle/32/6100_2.png) [@juggle](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/u/juggle)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2020, 7:34pm UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/a-litany-of-dumbassery/526/271 "2020-11-01T19:34:33Z")

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I hated braid…until I tried the MG Super Wick. That stuff is like magic. Now I prefer braid over the sucker in most situations. The other trick is using the right size braid. The “yellow” #442 works best for me on most things…but I also keep the larger green #425 on hand for larger components.

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**Author:** ![Circulartonic](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/circulartonic/32/10399_2.png) [@Circulartonic](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/u/Circulartonic)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2020, 9:14pm UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/a-litany-of-dumbassery/526/272 "2020-11-01T21:14:39Z")

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I after many attempts for messing up clearances. Tend too make a position template out of a bit of plywood for placement then position it is place clamp it down and drill. Then after I completed it I use the aluminum for a template if I am making more then one.

 ![IMG_20200302_235919_308](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/lookmumnocomputer/original/2X/1/13cb5d27eaa9c860c98efec77dfca734e28103c1.jpeg) When you need too make it very tight. 🤣 this is my mixer module

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**Author:** ![d42kn355](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/d42kn355/32/273_2.png) [@d42kn355](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/u/d42kn355)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2020, 4:07pm UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/a-litany-of-dumbassery/526/273 "2020-11-02T16:07:29Z")

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Don’t put silkscreen on masked off areas… lol

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/lookmumnocomputer/original/2X/0/0979c24a42948442c33fc675feb7584c317d409e.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![telec16](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/telec16/32/4510_2.png) [@telec16](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/u/telec16)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2020, 4:09pm UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/a-litany-of-dumbassery/526/274 "2020-11-02T16:09:45Z")

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It turns out pretty funky ! 😃

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**Author:** ![analogoutput](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/analogoutput/32/29663_2.png) [@analogoutput](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/u/analogoutput)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 5:31pm UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/a-litany-of-dumbassery/526/275 "2020-11-04T17:31:34Z")

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When you discover that, like a complete rookie, you got a variable resistor connected backwards on your PCB layout, you can toss out your module and try again, sacrificing eight [9mm B100ks](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/9-mm-pcb-mount-vertical-pots/1732) in the process, or you can bodge.

 ![PXL_20201104_172333982](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/lookmumnocomputer/original/2X/2/298688ceaf00f8039046f8ca95afd3f9a8ba7b09.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![twinturbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8baadc/32.png) [@twinturbo](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/u/twinturbo)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 8:42pm UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/a-litany-of-dumbassery/526/276 "2020-11-04T20:42:20Z")

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yep, got the t-shirt for that one

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**Author:** ![juggle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/juggle/32/6100_2.png) [@juggle](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/u/juggle)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 5:40am UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/a-litany-of-dumbassery/526/277 "2020-11-05T05:40:25Z")

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Whoops, got a little aggressive with the flush cuts there…

 ![20201104_214050](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/lookmumnocomputer/original/2X/2/2284a0e675d6082e794ebdeee64a21748cff894a.jpeg)

But a little bit of cut off lead and careful soldering:

 ![20201104_214539](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/lookmumnocomputer/original/2X/3/30b2894a9b39910544e3ca3ddfc9c7f987f820ca.jpeg)

Rescued!

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**Author:** ![d42kn355](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/d42kn355/32/273_2.png) [@d42kn355](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/u/d42kn355)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 9:29pm UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/a-litany-of-dumbassery/526/278 "2020-11-05T21:29:36Z")

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So uh… I finished this filter… and it was REALLY quiet… no smoke tho…

 ![pmf1fail](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/lookmumnocomputer/original/2X/f/f18f5a3de84b9c4bad7595b79f3fa4c762a6a3bf.jpeg)  
I used BC547’s and 557’s… the sheet calls for 2N3904’s and 3906’s…

Does anyone see what I did wrong here… lol

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**Author:** ![analogoutput](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/analogoutput/32/29663_2.png) [@analogoutput](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/u/analogoutput)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 9:59pm UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/a-litany-of-dumbassery/526/279 "2020-11-05T21:59:55Z")

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No sweat, that’s only, what, ~~eighteen~~ wait nineteen transistors you need to re-do?

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**Author:** ![d42kn355](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/d42kn355/32/273_2.png) [@d42kn355](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/u/d42kn355)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 10:00pm UTC](https://lookmumnocomputer.discourse.group/t/a-litany-of-dumbassery/526/280 "2020-11-05T22:00:53Z")

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wanna know what makes it even moar dumb…  
I forgot I had ordered 2n3904’s and 2n3906’s and they’re sitting in my mailbox… lol

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